CW Ventress - proposition for standards

[Guest Anonymous]

Hi all!

Anything new of standards of CW Ventress?

Well... We already finished one in friday evening for TR-9826

We had last weekend our biggest yearly event in Finland. There was characters from Nordic Garrison and Nordic Outpost + few hang arounds.

We didn´t yet get proper lightsabers ready for Ventress, but in progress..

 

Here is how she looked like:

 

 

Harassed with Jedi and Padawan

 

 

[Guest Sakara]

very nice!!!

[kathgruben]

Oooo, this is quite nice! I really like how you did the wraps on the arms, torso, and I think I even spy a foot too in the first pic

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank You.

 

We tryed to catch the feeling of cartoon, that´s why we painted those wraps.

We used this picture as an inspiration:

 

http://www.theflagshipeclipse.com/galle ... fullsize=1

 

kathgruben: Good catch! There are leggings under the skirt:

 

 

 

Sakara: Might this be you in CE?

 

[Guest Sakara]

heya! yep thats me! with my boyfriend has Darth Revan and a fellow UKg member as Count Dooku (he made my sabers too..damn talented fellow!)

[Guest Anonymous]

HAA! We have seen you live!

[Guest Sakara]

HAA! We have seen you live!

 

lol hope i didnt disapoint! love seeing peoples Photos from CE!

[Twi'lek Pam]

Hi all!

Anything new of standards of CW Ventress?

 

 

I honestly don't know where things stand right now for the Clone Wars version of Ventress.

 

As far as I know, none have been approved yet... but I may be wrong since the GML's approved a flurry of EU costumes that I didn't know about at the end of last year, and there's a chance that somebody approved a Clone Wars version. I haven't gone searching through the legion's membership pages to find out if someone got through; and a fair number of them don't have pictures, anyway. There is not a listing for the Clone Wars version of her costume in the CRL list, but that doesn't say much because Ventress doesn't have a seperate listing for the other three versions that have been approved, either. The CRL is still very much a work in progress.

 

So.... are you volunteering to help us get the CW version's standards started?

 

Pam

[Guest Anonymous]

So.... are you volunteering to help us get the CW version's standards started?

 

Pam

 

ABSOLUTELY!

 

We (TR-9826 & TI-9827) are volunteers to help you!

As we have noticed now is good time to CW characters. Especially here in Europe. Many countries here have recently started to show CW tv-series, so kids know the characters. Our "big hit" in our events (Finland and Sweden, Stockholm) have been Ahsoka: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4695/dscf5896.jpg Especially for little girls.

Last weekend Ventress made her debut here and catched the little boys. Bit scary, but cool

 

So tell us what you want us to do? We made quite background work for Ventress.

 

Yours

Tape & Emma

[Twi'lek Pam]

So.... are you volunteering to help us get the CW version's standards started?

 

Pam

 

ABSOLUTELY!

 

We (TR-9826 & TI-9827) are volunteers to help you!

As we have noticed now is good time to CW characters. Especially here in Europe. Many countries here have recently started to show CW tv-series, so kids know the characters. Our "big hit" in our events (Finland and Sweden, Stockholm) have been Ahsoka: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4695/dscf5896.jpg Especially for little girls.

Last weekend Ventress made her debut here and catched the little boys. Bit scary, but cool

 

So tell us what you want us to do? We made quite background work for Ventress.

 

Yours

Tape & Emma

 

 

Sweet! That would be a great help!

 

Just take a look at the standards that were written for the other versions of Ventress. The standards need to be broken into categories: "must have" and "should have." (There's also a "may have" category, but we don't seem to use that one very often.) From there, we just need to describe the details for each costume component and provide good reference images from the cartoon that show what the pieces should look like. It's a huge amount of work... but it creates a good "instruction manual" for folks who are making the costume!

 

Pam

[Guest Anonymous]

OK. Have to read carefully those other standards.

Shall we make list here so everyone can commentate it?

[Twi'lek Pam]

OK. Have to read carefully those other standards.

Shall we make list here so everyone can commentate it?

 

 

Sounds good to me!

 

 

Pam

[Guest Sakara]

if you need a hand with wording or suchlike, let me know, as i wrote the basis for the other Asajj standards

[The Clone Emperor]

Good morning,

 

I like the execution of this lady's CGI Clone Wars Asajj very much;

The bald pate in particular, is excellent, among the best I have seen.

 

The only point of critique I have to offer would be the treatment of the wrapped sections of the costume; waist, arms and legs. The paint applied works very well, but I would see it applied to a physical 3-D set of wraps, as in the CGI render;

 

Bravo.

 

Be well,

Thomas

[Guest Anonymous]

Excuse us for late answer. Mary Poppins have kept me occupied and TR-9826 have been busy with her work.

 

Thank you Emperor for droping by. We think we get your point. Every character have to be treated as it would be from real life. Our version is in this moment mixture of CGI and "real". We have planed to do those wraps in 3D. Have to test some alternatives to get the best result.

 

Sakara: We would be more than pleased for your help. Such as you have noticed English is not our native language.

 

We tried to find from internet those pix what we used for this costume, but it seems that most of those are not available anymore. Funny...

We have only few pix of those saved to our pc. If we put those to Imageshack they will remove those asap. As they did to my TI costume pix. Funny II...

 

Have to try to take some screenshots from DVD:s.

 

We´ll make some must & have list in Finnish first and then try to translate it...

[Guest Sakara]

No problem. Im away for a few weeks on holiday but i shall endevour to help where i can

[Guest Anonymous]

Any word on the progress of costume standards for this version of Ventress? I ask because I would like to tackle this costume myself, and I'd prefer to add it to my growing list of 501st-approved costumes....

[Guest Anonymous]

We started to make some sort of proposal for those standards, but haven´t finish those yet. Fe minor translation problems and something happened to our pc that we can´t get any screen shots

Reminder: Spank myself to finish the proposal...

[ionicdesign]

I'm guessing that you already have a bunch of reference but I saw this was a decently large image and thought I'd point it out:

 

 

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you ionicdesign. It looks, that someone have removed the blades from that picture.


OK, Here is the proposition for CW Ventress standards. And please, commentate, correct typos, suggest better wording etc. We couldn´t find all "right" words, so if you know those please tell me. The text is translated from finish to english, so... Atleast I´m willing to know right name for that velvet ( marked in yellow) *FIXED/ADDED*. Click the thumbnails for bigger picture.

Thank You mates for your kind help!
TI-9827&TR-9826

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[b]Assaj Ventresss Clone Wars version[/b]

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Costumer must have:

Bald Head
-The costumer´s hair must be shaved or covered with a tight-fitting bald cap.

Cosmetics/makeup
-The costumers head, neck, chest, back, arms and hands must be very pale with greyish or white tone.
-Purple "tattoos":
-Slightly upwards curved line from corner of the eye to half way of ear
-Two slightly curved pyramid shaped in fore head pointing downwards
-Continous line from corner of the mouth to another passing under chin
-"G"-shaped line in back of the head continuing passing right above the ear and curves upwards
-Straight line with two diamond patterns starting from center of costumers head and goes backwards ending height of the ears.
-The eye shadow should be purple with black eye liner and mascara.
-Dark red with black lining (?(very narrow black line around the red)) or dark purple lipstick.
-Purple or grey nail polish.

-If desired the costumer may wear light blue or turcoise contacts

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Shirt
-The form fitting shirt must have short sleeves and the collar must be high and tight against the neck. The upper half of shirt must be made of half glossy/ half matte dark blue stretch fabric with openings in front and back.
-The front opening is horizontally elliptic. The opening begins just under collarbones and is about as wide as costumers chest
-The back opening is hexagonal. The opening begins just under neck with straight horizontal line wich is 1/3 wide of costumers back and ends right under the lower half of the shirt.
-Lower half of shirt, beginning just under costumers chest, must be covered with whiteish/light greyish wraps with lilac highlights/shadowing. The edges of the wraps should be cleanly cut and should not be fraying.

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Fore Arm Wraps
-Tight fitting from over the elbow to palm, not going around thomb. Colour and style of wrapping must match with lower half of shirt.

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Leggings
-Leggins must be tight fitting. Upper part of leggings must be same colour and material as upper half of the shirt. Lower part from downwards of half way of tigh must be covered with wraps in same colour and style as lower half of shirt. Wraps must cover also whole feet. Foot can also be separete parts of leggings. If separete parts are used, there must not be gap between parts. Feet must be shaped as "ninja" slipper with separate big toe .

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Skirt
-The wide skirt made of crushed velvet or chenille must be floor lenght and matching colour with upper half of shirt and leggings. Skirt is open from the front. The opening must be hidden behind the tabbard. Right side of the skirt must be on the top. Skirt must be that wide that it won´t open when walking.

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Belts
-One large round shape front buckle, patinated golden/bronze in colour with rectangle shape groove and triangle in the midle pointing costumers right.
-Two body fitting white/light grey leather/leatherlike belts made of rectangle shape pieces, crossing on the back and front.

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Tabbard
-Ankle lenght dark purple suede/suedelike tabbard must be attached behind the belt buckle. From upper end tabbard must be as wide as the buckle and must widening to lower end.
-Tabbard must have golden/bronze puzzle piece like pattern.

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Should have:

Cloak
-Hooded sleeveles cloak (Luke ROTJ style?) made of greyesh blue/greyish lilac fabric.

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Light sabers
-The twin hilts should resemble the established curved design for Assajj Ventress. They may be attached together in to a double saber design or they may be worn and carried separately. If the lightsabers have blades the blades must be red in colour.

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*trash can*

The costumer may have (fe. in outdoor use)(or should this be "only for outdoor use"?)

Boots
-The boots should be black or dark gray, and should have low heels.
-The boots can be plain, or they may have a row of buckles up the sides.

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[Guest Sakara]

Id say skirt fabric should be either a crushed velvet or a Chenille, to give that texture she has.

 

eg - crushed velvet - the less shiny the better.

http://raymondstextiles.com/392-392C.jpg

 

http://www.todiefordesigns.com/Shop/Fabric/zoom.php5?fabric=184

 

Chenille - popular in upholstery fabrics..but you can get thin enough ones for garments, ive made skirts and cloaks out of it and it has a richness to the texture.

 

http://www.wholesale-fabric-discount-store.com/mall/Storm.htm

http://www.fabricsandpapers.com/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/edenchenillefabric-5185-14.htm

[Guest Anonymous]

Id say skirt fabric should be either a crushed velvet or a Chenille, to give that texture she has.

 

eg - crushed velvet - the less shiny the better.

http://raymondstextiles.com/392-392C.jpg

 

http://www.todiefordesigns.com/Shop/Fabric/zoom.php5?fabric=184

 

Chenille - popular in upholstery fabrics..but you can get thin enough ones for garments, ive made skirts and cloaks out of it and it has a richness to the texture.

 

http://www.wholesale-fabric-discount-store.com/mall/Storm.htm

http://www.fabricsandpapers.com/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/edenchenillefabric-5185-14.htm

 

Thank you Sakara! The crushed velvet was the word we were looking for.

 

hmm.. Less shiny? I don´t quite agree. If you compare these pictures you might find out what I mean:

 

 

And chenille is almost matt and won´t reflect and move like Ventresses skirt in the movie.

[Guest Sakara]

yeah i was meaning not that really shiny velvet you can get, the cheap nasty fancy dress type crushed velvet.

 

with chenille you can get a nice rich sheen...here example i made a couple of Baris cloaks with smooth chenille and you can see where the cloak ripples as it hits the floor, the light catches the rich fibres and causes different colours to appear.Also on the second photo where the hood folds.

On a more crushed, textured chenille can look alot like what her skirt does too...but as i said it needs to be a thin chenille so as not to be too heavy.

 

[Guest Anonymous]

Yes, chenille might also work. And for some costumers it might be easier to sew. Crushed velvet could stretch a bit while sewing.

[Guest Anonymous]

Any other comments?