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Clone Wars Ventress


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Hello!!

 

I'm new here :) I want to make a costume of Asajj Ventress - her first outfit in the Clone Wars, with the skirt and the red-and-gold tabard - and I was hoping to find good advice here! I've already gone through all the threads about Ventress here, it's awesome to see what the other fans did, and to read everyone's advice!!

 

I really hope I can make a beautiful costume that will meet the 501st standards! I have near zero experience in sewing and make-up though, so it will take a lot of learning and trying ^^

 

So far I have:

- white wraps for the arms, legs and stomach. And I've ordered lilac paint for the shading, I should receive it soon!

- the golden tan suede for the tabard, with red paint and burgundy paint (the burgundy is a bit too pink so I'll try mixing the two).

- I'll soon have lightsabers!! *w* Someone awesome is 3D-printing them for me, he's already made one of them you can see it here: http://www.cosplayforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=46235&p=875469#p875469 They look soooo beautiful!! <3

- a Graftobian bald cap, with the whole kit that goes with it. I haven't tried it yet. I think I'm gonna buy Prosaide and use it instead of the spirit gum that was in the kit, since it was recommended in other threads.

- lots of make-up - which I hardly know how to use lol, but I've received tons of advice on another forum :) (eyeshadows in white, black and various purple, nail paint, eyeliner, lipstick, invisible powder...)

 

I've tried the make-up once already for training (without the grey-white paint for now). The result wasn't super awesome but I'll train more!

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/26/1435258984-img-1122.jpg

 

I want to buy a lot more baldcaps, since I want to train several times putting it on, and then I want to wear my costume often. I was considering buying a pack of 8 to PinkStylish, has any of you already try his caps? (http://charlie-short.com/shop_baldcaps08.html) Graftobian doesn't sell several caps at once I think, so I'll probably try those, unless you recommend something else :)

 

For the body paint, I was thinking on buying Ben Nye Magicolor Liquid Paint. I've tried it already in green, for a costume of Maleficent. I looked nice and stayed very well on my face even though it was one of the hottest day of the year in Paris and I sweat a lot. The paint entirely rubbed off my arms, but that's because my arms were constantly rubbing against my cloak. No paint could have resist that x) With Ventress outfit though, there will be no such rubbing, so it should be fine :)

 

I've seen some of you use an airbrush: what are the advantages, compared to a fondation brush or a puff? I've seen some veeeery expensive airbrushes online so it's scaring me a bit lol. Does it look better with the airbrush? is it easier to apply? Do you think a 15€ airbrush would work fine, or are the expensive ones really better? For my Maleficent costume I used a fondation brush. It wasn't very homogeneous on the first layer, but with several layers of paint it looked just fine. Maybe it's more difficult to paint the cap though, I don't know.

 

Finally (for now ^^), I would like your advice for the fabrics of the midnight blue top. I know nothing of fabrics, do you recommend a fabric in particular?

 

Thank you!!!!

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I drew the pattern of the tabbard on Illustrator, using BBC527's cool photo as an outline :)

 

I drew it as a vector (see attached file in pdf), so you make it as big or small as you want and it will still look nice :) (it's 1m tall in the pdf)
It's really easy to change the size, so anyone can use it if they want, it fits on 8 sheets of paper when you print it. Feel free to share the file with anyone if you think it could be useful for future cosplayers!!

 

I made it with 3 different size at the bottom, since I can't decide which one is best x) I would say the first one is too large at the bottom, and number 2 or 3 are better. What do you think? 

 

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Hello and welcome NightSister!
 
Looks like you're well on track with your Ventress build :)  I must say that the lightsabers you are having printed look amazing!!
 
 

I've seen some of you use an airbrush: what are the advantages, compared to a fondation brush or a puff? I've seen some veeeery expensive airbrushes online so it's scaring me a bit lol. Does it look better with the airbrush? is it easier to apply? Do you think a 15€ airbrush would work fine, or are the expensive ones really better? For my Maleficent costume I used a fondation brush. It wasn't very homogeneous on the first layer, but with several layers of paint it looked just fine. Maybe it's more difficult to paint the cap though, I don't know.
 
Finally (for now ^^), I would like your advice for the fabrics of the midnight blue top. I know nothing of fabrics, do you recommend a fabric in particular?


Most of the time my husband will airbrush my makeup on for me. The advantage is that you get very even coverage of the paint, and if you're using alcohol-based paints like I do, an airbrush works best. However, I have also seen great paint applications done with sponge or brush, so it's really up to you and what you find is the easiest way to achieve the best results.

 

As for the fabric, the 501st standard states "The floor length skirt is made of a crushed velvet or chenille fabric". I would use the same fabric for the shirt and the skirt if possible - use the fuzzy side for the skirt to show the texture, and then use the smooth (back) side of the same fabric for the shirt. That way they are the same colour. ;)

 

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

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Thanks for the advice kathgruben!! <3

I've already bought some fabric for the top (someone recommended me lycra), even though I haven't found anything I liked for the skirt yet. Once I find the skirt, I'll see which one works better for the top between the lycra and the back of the skirt fabric :)

 

I have some pictures to share!!! For the forearms I bought some wraps in a sport shop, and painted them with lilac paint.

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Then I put them on a long white fingerless gloves (the wraps are sticky), and here is the result:

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I can put and remove the wraps easily so it's nice:

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What do you think? Does this look good enough for 501st approval? :)

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Yep thanks, I had forgotten somehow but I'll make them again and better :)

Also my wraps were white instead of light grey, and I think the lilac should be less bright. But at least I know this way with wraps on a glove works very well!! <3

 

I was wondering, did some of you managed to attach the hilts of the lightsabers to your belt without any visible support? I've discussed this with other people. We've thought of magnets (one put on the hole where you normally put the blade, the other sewed to the belt), but it's probably not enough when you walk, the magnet on the hilt moves turns, and would probably lose adherence with the one on the belt, and the saber would fall. Elastics sewed to the belt and going around the hilt would be too visible.

The last idea was this one (it can be built with a 3D printer):

 

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What do you think? Do you have any other idea? :)

My saber looks like that to give you an idea, and weighs about 250g:

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Hi everyone!

It's been a while since I last posted. But since my Ventress costume is now finished and has been approved by the 501st (yaaaay!!! \o/), I thought I'd make a tutorial, describing very precisely how I made my costume. I hope it will help!! I was a total beginner in both sewing and make-up when I started, so this is kind of a guide for people who have no clue where to start, like I was ^^

 

 

1. Head and body

 

What you'll need:

 

HEAD:

- latex bald caps. Since I wanted to wear my costume several times, and each cap can only be used once, I bought Charlie Short's pack of 8 caps. Cheapest option, very good quality, I'm super happy with their look!

- Pros-Aide (sort of glue for the edges of your cap)

- Pros-Aide remover

- liquid latex (to make the edges of the cap "invisible", as if it's the continuity of your skin)

- a sponge to apply the latex. NB: It will be ruined, don't use your favorite one.

- flat barrettes (hair clasps). Be careful if you use hairpins, their pointy end can stick out, look ugly, and threaten to pierce your cap.

- a glue stick. Putting a layer or two of that on your eyebrows will protect them from being ripped off when you remove the latex.

 

BODY PAINT:

- grey and white body paint (to mix it until you have the exact color you want). I've use alcohol-based paint because it stays put, much more than water-based paint. It's more expensive though so it's up to you. I've bought the Reel Creation liquid paint, but that's because I went to the US - it's way too expensive to ship it to Europe, so if you're in Europe, you'll have to find another brand. Anyway, this paint worked perfectly on the bald cap (no need to mix it with latex or whatever). I'm not sure if water-based paint would work on the bald cap.

- paint remover if you buy alcohol-based paint. Water-based paint can be wash away with just water and soap.

- airbrush or sponge to apply the paint.

 

MAKE-UP:

- lipstick (dark mulberry or maroon)

- nail paint (dark lavender or gray)

- eyeliner

- mascara

- white eyeshadow

- black eyeshadow

- midnight blue or purple eyeshadow creme stick or pencil

- small brush

- maybe grey eyeshadow if you want to try to do contouring with it... I'm just too bad at this so I don't it haha.

- invisible powder to fix the make-up

- a puff to apply the powder

- pencil sharpener (for make-up pencils... I told you I was doing a beginner's guide! I didn't even know this kind of stuff existed lol)

 

AND ALSO:

- a friend (or family member, or lover, or just a plain slave  :D) to help you. Cause you can't do the back alone.

 

WHAT TO DO WITH ALL THAT:

Before the big day:

- try to put a bald cap on for training. Then ask someone to draw the tattoos on it. Then remove the cap. You can redraw the tattoos a bit until you think they are perfect. Then cut this cap along the tattoos. You will use it the next time as a stencil - hence saving time, and making sure the tattoos will look perfect  :)

- I strongly recommend to paint your cap in greyish white BEFORE the day of the convention. To save time.

- Also if you can paint your nails the day before, you gain time. Since it takes me about 6 hours to put the whole costume on, anything you can do in advance, do it!

 

On the big day:

- First thing I do the day of the convention is to put on my top, because the turtleneck is extremely tight and I would ruin the bald cap if I tried to put it on while wearing the bald cap.

- Then I attach my hair with barrettes. Even if you have long hair it can work, ask youtube for tutos  ;)

- put glue on your eyebrows

put on the bald cap like in this video 

Though Charlie manages to do it alone, you WILL need someone to cut the edges, around the ears, and to glue the cap on the back of your neck.

- once you've made the edges of the cap disappear thanks to the liquid latex, paint your face in grey-white.

- put on mascara and eyeliner

- draw the tattoos around your eyes and below your mouth with a midnight blue or purple eyeshadow stick or pencil.

- with the small brush, add a layer of black eyeshadow on top of it. (Well I needed that step because my pencil was in a too light purple, but if you have the exact right color you can skip this step. Though if you used a pencil, putting powder on top of it will help fix it and look nice I think... I'm not an expert haha)

- with a puff, add white eyeshadow on your tattoos. That will make look like real tattoos, like they're underneath the skin  ;)

- same procedure for the tattoos on the back of your head, except you'll need someone to do it for you. Make sure to give them a stencil (cut from another bald cap), they'll be more comfortable and will be able to do it fast.

- you can add a layer of white eyeshadow all over your face to make it more uniform (in case the paint wasn't too uniform)

- do some contouring with grey eyeshadow if you want

- put on the lipstick.

 

You now look like Ventress!!  :)

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Notes:

The airbrush: I bought one, it was super expensive, and I wasn't happy with it  :( A really simple reason (maybe easily avoidable?): the diameter of the needle wasn't large enough ("0.5mm", it's the largest I could find in a local store).

As a result, it takes me HOURS to paint small portions of my body. Like, 2 hours for the cap, 2 hours for the back, and then you still have you face and arms and part of your chest to paint... way too long! So if you buy an airbrush, make sure the needle is large!!! Also, my airbrush stopped working in the middle of my painting the day Star Wars VII was released... that was not fun  :( I lost a good hour trying to fix it. It was in fact just a screw that was too tightly screwed...

But I've met lots of cosplayers who told me they painted their whole body in just one hour with just a sponge. Geez. I'm gonna try the sponge next time lol.

 

 

2. The top

 

 

What you'll need:

- midnight blue fabric (I used lycra)

- a turtleneck that fits you and that you don't care too much for.

- dark blue thread (seems obvious but I ALWAYS forget to buy the thread)

- a sewing machine (yeah, it really helps lol)

 

What to do:

I honestly didn't even try to draw the pattern of the shirt myself. I have absolutely no clue how to do that.

So I just cut my turtleneck along the seams, and used that as a pattern :D

Basically, just put the pieces of your shirt on the lycra, add 1-2 cm all around, and cut. You have your pieces! The only thing to change is the length of the sleeves, you want short sleeves (and the turtleneck you just cut up was probably long sleeve because it's hard to find a short sleeve turtleneck).

With a sewing machine, sew the pieces together. The turtleneck and sleeves can be a bit tricky to sew but really it's not that hard.

 

Then cut a hole on the front and on the back of your shirt. Don't make the holes too big, because if you made the shirt really tight, the holes will expand... if you see what I mean :/ They'll be bigger than what you cut due to the tension of the fabric.

 

Note:

To sew the lycra, stretch it to the maximum. If you don't, the sewing won't work (try it, you'll see).

I've read on the internet that there are special needles to sew the lycra... don't bother. Just stretch it and it works! You can sew in small zigzags to make the seams stronger.

 

3. The skirt & tabard

 

What you'll need:

- midnight blue crushed velvet fabric, or something that looks similar.

- dark blue thread

- golden tan suede

- yellow thread (or red... you'll paint on it anyway)

- dark mulberry or burgundy paint (I mixed two kind of red paint to get the perfect color). There are paints specially made to use on fabric.

- new, sharp brushes, with short stiff hair. I used a flat brush (to make straight lines) and a pointy one (for the details).

 

What to do:

For the skirt, cut 4 trapezoids and sew them together... I'm sure you'll figure it out ^^ Don't forget that the skirt opens in the front, with the right side overlapping the left.

 

For the tabard, print the pattern (I've put a pdf of it in my second post), cut it and use it as stencil to draw the pattern on the yellow fabric (I drew it with a pencil, it was visible enough for me to see, and invisible enough to not be apparent at all once painted). 

Paint.

 

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If you used a paint that goes on fabric, you should be able to fix the paint with an iron, so that it stays put even if you want to wash your tabard later on. (I haven't tried to wash my tabard yet though, I hope it DOES stay put haha).

 

Then sew the tabard to the skirt.

 

4. The wraps

 

What you'll need:

- white elastic adhesive wraps. A LOT of them. 2 meters/arm, at least 4m for the waist I think (don't remember that one sorry), and at least 6m/leg... so something like 26m minimum haha.

- white and black paint (to make a very light grey). I used fabric paint (but maybe it works with normal paint I don't know).

- lilacs paint. I mixed it with grey to get the perfect color (you don't want it to be too pink).

- white fingerless long gloves

- white thighs or leggings (well in theory any color is ok)

- for the shoes, I used white dancer's shoes.

 

What to do:

- your wraps must be cleanly cut and not fraying. If you could only find fraying ones (like I did, at Decathlon), you "simply" need to fold one edge of all the bands. Since it's adhesive it's easy. But that's like the most tedious thing to do of the whole cosplay, so if you can find cleanly cut wraps, buy them!!! XD

- paint your wraps in very light grey

- paint one edge in lilacs.

 

- put on the finger less long gloves, and ask someone to put the adhesive wraps nicely around it. You can now remove and put back your gloves at will, the bands will stay in place :)

 

- put on your top, and ask someone to put the adhesive bands around your waist. You will then notice that it's impossible to remove the top with the bandages on, it's just too tight. So you have two solutions: either you remove the wraps before removing the top, and you put them back everytime to wear the cosplay. Or you cleanly cut the wraps on the back (which will make it possible for you to remove the top), and sew a scratch there to close it at will.

 

- put on your thighs (or leggings), and ask someone to put the adhesive wraps nicely on your legs. DO NOT TRY TO REMOVE THE THIGHS WITH THE WRAPS ON!!! That was the biggest mistake I made, I ruined my wraps and lost so much time...

Basically, if you remove your thighs, they will lose their tension and their shape, and retract. The wraps will then fold everywhere and since they're adhesive it will be impossible to unfold them... if you see what I mean.

So, when you want to remove your costume, remove the wraps on your legs - detach the from your thighs and roll them. Unlike with the gloves (where the wraps stay on nicely), you'll have to put the wraps around your legs every time. Eventually they might lose their stickiness after you've worn them several times, and you might need to make new ones... but that's better than ruining them if you let them on the thighs, or else you'll have to redo them every f*cking time. 

 

- for your feet, cover your shoes with bits of bandages in advance. Then when you put your costume on, and put the wraps down your legs, cover also the beginning of your feet so that we don't see the separation between your leg and the shoe.

 

Notes:

Be careful that the blue fabric of the skirt may rub off on your leg wrappings, and get them all blue and dirty. Put a layer between the velvet of the skirt and your wraps so that this doesn't happen!! (something white or a fabric that won't rub off)

 

5. The belt

 

What you'll need:

- two black belts, about 5 cm wide (or just bands, you don't need the buckle)

- light grey simili leather

- glue

- push buttons, and the tools to attach them:

 

 

What to do:

 

- Cut the buckles. You don't want it, it's too big.

- Put pressure button instead. It's flat and nice!

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- Cut rectangles of grey simili leather, so that you can cover your entire belt with 8 rectangles. Glue 7 of them. The 8th piece, you'll attach with more pressure buttons, hidden in the interior of your belt. That way, you can put on and remove your belts easily, and the buttons are completely invisible!!

 

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- Result:

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6. Belt buckle and lightsabers

 

I was extremely lucky, someone 3D-printed the belt buckle and the hilts of the lightsabers for me.

If you don't have a 3D-printer, check tutorial by other cosplayers for the belt buckle. 

 

For the sabers, you can maybe find them for extremely high prices on ebay (like 1200€ haha)... or else there is the Ultrasaber's Dark Mantis which looks a bit alike (curved hilts). Good luck with that!!!

 

My friend also 3D-printed something to attach the sabers to the belts, but they broke very quickly since they weren't solid enough (plastic) compared to the weigh of the sabers.

 

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I think that's all!!!!

Don't hesitate if you have questions. And if you have any tips, any suggestion to improve my tuto, please share your ideas!!

 

Here is the result:

 

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Great write-up!!

Also, your bald cap looks amazing!!

For Ventress, a seamless transition is extremely necessary

but is also difficult to pull off - Dooku would be impressed! ;D

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Great write-up!! Also, your bald cap looks amazing!! For Ventress, a seamless transition is extremely necessary but is also difficult to pull off - Dooku would be impressed! ;D

 

Thank you!!!! Glad you like it! :)

I hope I will meet a Dooku cosplayer someday. To pledge my allegiance to him. (And then steal all his cookies and flee :D)

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I was wondering, did some of you managed to attach the hilts of the lightsabers to your belt without any visible support? I've discussed this with other people. We've thought of magnets (one put on the hole where you normally put the blade, the other sewed to the belt), but it's probably not enough when you walk, the magnet on the hilt moves turns, and would probably lose adherence with the one on the belt, and the saber would fall. Elastics sewed to the belt and going around the hilt would be too visible.

The last idea was this one (it can be built with a 3D printer):

 

I don't know if anyone has managed to figure this one out yet and have the hilts stay in place. Love to see what you come up with!

 
 

I would think a row of good sized neodymium magnets would be the way to go if you want them to magically stay on the buckle. If the buckle is a magnetic metal and there is a row of neodymium magnets on the hilt it would probably work fine. You'd want to be careful and keep your phone, credit cards and other things away from it though for sure.

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So I met up with my seamstress and went over what we need to start building. We have questions. 

1. Can the tabard fabric be mulberry and the pattern painted on with the golden tan?

2. Can the tabard be attached to the belt buckle instead of the skirt? if not why attach to the skirt?

3. The belt Buckle. What is the diameter of the buckle 3 1/2 in or 4 in. What is everyone making them out of? Also behind the rectangle is a design. What is the design? And is the rectangle and triangle recessed?

Thanks for all the help  

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So I met up with my seamstress and went over what we need to start building. We have questions. 

1. Can the tabard fabric be mulberry and the pattern painted on with the golden tan?

2. Can the tabard be attached to the belt buckle instead of the skirt? if not why attach to the skirt?

3. The belt Buckle. What is the diameter of the buckle 3 1/2 in or 4 in. What is everyone making them out of? Also behind the rectangle is a design. What is the design? And is the rectangle and triangle recessed?

Thanks for all the help  

 

 

1. I don't know... the CRL says golden fabric painted with red, and some gold can be seen through the red on withered areas, so I don't know if the opposite would be ok. You could ask the higher ups. Is there any strong reason why you'd prefer to do it gold on red instead of red on gold? The amount of work to do would be pretty similar in both cases...

 

2. Sure attaching the tabard to the belt seems equally good than attaching it to the skirt. I found that it was easier to sew it on the skirt, but you could probably attach it with glue or something to the belt, and no one would see a difference anyway ^^

 

3. There isn't really a fixed diameter, as it would depend on your own size too. If you're tall and large, you might want a bigger buckle than if you're small and thin. Try it on yourself with pieces of paper of something, and take what looks best ;) My buckle was 3D-printed by a friend, and I think other people used foam or other materials (check the other topics here, I think people were talking about it but I don't remember the details). The design on the buckle doesn't represent anything, it's just a weird shape — just try to reproduce it at best from the image in the CRL ;) The rectangle is recessed, and the triangle within is raised (embossed? not sure of the correct english word).

 

Good luck with your costume, and don't hesitate if you have more questions!!!! :) 

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I drew the pattern of the tabbard on Illustrator, using BBC527's cool photo as an outline :)

 

I drew it as a vector (see attached file in pdf), so you make it as big or small as you want and it will still look nice :) (it's 1m tall in the pdf)

It's really easy to change the size, so anyone can use it if they want, it fits on 8 sheets of paper when you print it. Feel free to share the file with anyone if you think it could be useful for future cosplayers!!

 

I made it with 3 different size at the bottom, since I can't decide which one is best x) I would say the first one is too large at the bottom, and number 2 or 3 are better. What do you think? 

 

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So I opened this in Adobe Illustrator and I am trying to print but I keep getting the pages you are trying to print are al blank but I can see your 3 tabbards. I am not familiar with Illustrator. Please help

Thank you

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What version of Illustrator are you using?

 

Do you have the Page Tiling (box icon under the hand on the toolbar) placed where it overlaps the patterns? If not it could be in a white section as these are quite large.

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I am not sure. I know I click on Print and it shows part of the design in the box that would be the sheet to print and then nothing. I opened it in Photoshop and cropped each tabbard into 8x10 sheets and saved each sheet. I have 4 sheets to print per tabbard to size them to me. Fingers crossed that it will work. 

 

What has everyone used to create the belt buckle? I do not have access to a 3D printer. Was hoping to get ideas from other ladies

Thanks in Advance

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So I opened this in Adobe Illustrator and I am trying to print but I keep getting the pages you are trying to print are al blank but I can see your 3 tabbards. I am not familiar with Illustrator. Please help

Thank you

 

 

I've never tried to print directly from Illustrator or Photoshop actually so I don't know. But since it a pdf file there should be other, simpler softwares you can use to open the file and print it, like Preview or Acrobat Reader or something~ 

Tell me if your problem persists. I could also send it to you in .jpg file if that's more convenient? 

 

For the belt buckle you should check the other Ventress topics. Mine was 3D-printed, but other cosplayers have tried different things.

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I've never tried to print directly from Illustrator or Photoshop actually so I don't know. But since it a pdf file there should be other, simpler softwares you can use to open the file and print it, like Preview or Acrobat Reader or something~ 

Tell me if your problem persists. I could also send it to you in .jpg file if that's more convenient? 

 

For the belt buckle you should check the other Ventress topics. Mine was 3D-printed, but other cosplayers have tried different things.

How do you connect your belt buckle to your belts?

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I've never tried to print directly from Illustrator or Photoshop actually so I don't know. But since it a pdf file there should be other, simpler softwares you can use to open the file and print it, like Preview or Acrobat Reader or something~ 

Tell me if your problem persists. I could also send it to you in .jpg file if that's more convenient? 

 

For the belt buckle you should check the other Ventress topics. Mine was 3D-printed, but other cosplayers have tried different things.

What would it cost to have your friend 3D print a buckle. I will pay for shipping also?

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