Hi everyone! My name is T.J. Jones, I've been a member of the legion since 2016 with a handful of approved costumes. For the last couple years I've been on the fence about doing a KOTOR II Darth Nihilus, but today's the day that I dive deep into the details and maybe possibly aid in updating the CRL. I would appreciate feedback along the way as we talk about current CRL comparisons to the KOTOR II video game and my progress in creating the costume.
Tonight, I wanted to focus one of the most iconic parts of the costume... the mask. The left is a screenshot from the PC version of the game and the right is current CRL image for the KOTOR II mask.
A: The dark silver design located at the top of the mask from the in-game character has a much more triangular shape with thin tapering circles that slowly shrink in size which appears to be about 5 to 6 rather than the current CRL mask that has a much bulkier non-triangular shape with only 3 tapering circles on each side, which seems to more closely model that of the COTF version of the costume rather than the KOTOR II video game.
B: The center forehead circle is much too large in the current CRL mask vs the in-game character model. Three layers appear to be present in both but the in-game model is a much tighter grouping than that of the current CRL.
C: The in-game model's red paint details stop in-line with the top of the center forehead circle. The current CRL has the red line going above/past the circle detail just a bit too far.
I can see where a debate could occur with this because if you take a look at the video game's box art; the mask tells a different story.
The upper portion of the mask's silver detail that is triangular in shape in the video game actually appears circular on the box art. Also the center circle on the forehead appears much wider (somewhat similar to current CRL). So does that mean both should be allowed? If not, and you'd have to pick one, I'd imagine you'd use the mask from the in-game model rather than the box art.
What are your thoughts?
Another thing to note is that in-game you can see a faint visual representation of a face, specifically the eyes, nose, and lips. However, on the box-art these features are not present. So in this case I could see an argument of wearing the blackout mask found on the COTF CRL because these facial features are present in-game. But if you go off of what is portrayed on the box art, the "Face Covering" zentai-style black spandex mask that is currently on the KOTOR II CRL would be acceptable.
Should both be acceptable or would the in-game model be the preferred choice? What do you think?
To go into some detail about where I've been looking for different components of this costume... I started out at Wicked Armor. I've sent a few messages over to Melanie and she's been very helpful. Based on the current photos on their website, I noticed that the robes were just a tad short as you can see from this in-game screenshot the lower robes / skirt gathers around the boots of Nihilus and spills out onto the floor:
However in some cases you will find the robes hovering above the ground, specifically when he's in combat (perhaps due to the wider stance) -- but it is a video game model from the early 2000's after all:
So I definitely agree with the existing CRL statement for the skirt that says: "The skirt is made with enough material to create a gathered effect around the body, and is not tight or form-fitting."; but the statement of "The skirt is made of opaque black fabric that reaches nearly to the floor." could be debatable.
What are your thoughts on the length of skirt/lower robes?
For the gloves, a handful of in-game characters have them up to their elbows, Darth Nihilus is no different.
I was able to source some plain elbow high gloves on an etsy store: (17") Long Genuine Leather Opera Length Party plain Evening Elbow Gloves. I ended up purchasing a pair in large, but they turned out to be too small for my hands so I'm in the process of returning them for an XL.
I think this is a good post to kick things off, feel free to share your thoughts!