Jump to content
  • Announcement

    Welcome to the forums!

    If you are a newly-approved member, make sure you check out the New Member Checklist!

    If you are a Detachment member and can't see the member-only area, post here for access.

    -DV

Asajj Ventress Bad Batch Season 3 Episode 9 "The Harbinger"


Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Soooooo, figured I'd give it a go with trying to make the outfit for Ventress from the Bad Batch episode.  I wanted to do some research first and try out a few things before moving forward with this on here (FE forum) as a thread. I'm going to post things that I have already played around with, along with moving forward for stuff I will be doing in future. 

A thank you to folks who have posted pictures on the Facebook group. It has helped immensely and I will be including some of them in this build. 

Please keep in mind I am having a hard time with getting my phone to take pictures of the colors so I did invest in two Pantone booklets Pantone GP1601B 2022 Edition Coated and Uncoated Guide. I have been making notes of the colors of the fabric to compare to what I have seen on the different screen from the show. I will be pointing them out in the photos so people can check the colors and whatnot. 

I'm currently working on the prints for the tunic and the two outer collars and short sleeves. I worked on the patterns in a program called Creative Space that is used with the xTool Laser machines. They have a silk screen printing machine which "sort of" works with what I am trying to accomplish.  

The fabric for the tunic and the outer collars I am choosing to use Scuba knit fabric. Partly due to it laying down smoothly on a human body, two it has stretch, which shows up on the upper sleeves of the lighter fabric (see following image of upper arm) and it's in tribute to the fact that this episode deals with water and an island (this particular part will continue with some other parts of my build that I will share when I get to them). 

VBD9YYi.jpg

So, I guess I'll start with the pattern for the collars and short sleeves. I looked online and in some of my books to see if I could find a woven pattern that could be bought or even hand woven on a loom  (I have a loom). But there is no actual weave for this pattern. There is something close, but it was definitely different. And physically it wouldn't present itself well for a fabric as it would be too loose of a weave and not look like what is in the cartoon. But this is just my personal judgement call. I have decided to go ahead and make a print of the pattern and silk screen it onto the fabric. My first attempt I felt was too uniform and didn't have the same feel as the cartoon. So I went back and reworked the edges of the lines and reshaped as well as resized the pattern. I worked on the counting of the height of the repeat of the print to the collars and to the cartoons neck and my real neck. I sized the print accordingly to "hopefully" work for myself. I'm still working on alignment for repeating the pattern on fabric, but I have pictures to show what I have so far. 

When I am done with printing it, I will be going back over the fabric with another layer of transparent paint with more of a light coffee stain color to match the color in the show. There are areas around the seams and edges of the collar where the material is lighter, closer to ivory. I am working with the ivory colored fabric to see if I can keep some of that coloring in and around the collars edges. For now I am just working on the printed part. I have been hand mixing my colors. I am using a mixture of Speedball water based inks. 

PbtHaTD.jpg


9KQpsaL.jpg

243Jmil.jpg

After making the changes to make the pattern feel more organic

A12MOk5.jpg

etQ63O6.jpg

zHZcJv8.jpg

TPhO6d1.jpg

3zJzRYS.jpg


The following section deals with the blue printed fabric on her tunic. Boy this is an oddball fabric but I think I have it pretty much figured out. Though I do have questions about pattern repeats, but I will continue with that at the end of this post. The main part of the issue is finding a way to have the pattern show up in light but not as much in darker shadowy areas. After studying different images of her outfit in the light and dark (and even when it is wet and in the light) I came to the conclusion that the print itself is a semi gloss coating on the surface of the fabric. BUT, when you put a coating of say acrylic clear coat it turns darker when printed on. I also noted that even with  the "clear" print on top some areas of the fabric had a "painterly" feel to it. I ended up getting  a teal colored scuba fabric and then painted it in long strokes with a sponge and a translucent paint mixture (of transparent, white, blue and a dash of yellow) that soaked up mostly into the fabric, giving it a ghostly painterly look as the base and making the color a bit lighter than the original fabric which I found to be too intense for the base color. I also decided to try out a oil based paint for the clear coat on top of the fabric. This seems to do the trick on a synthetic material (natural cotton did seem to absorb some of the ink and make it darker). 

As with the collar and sleeve pattern I had made an initial pattern but felt it to be too angular and modified it to look more organic with slight curves and I also resized the pattern to match the size of myself. Being a bit larger than Ventress I opted to go with a few rows more in the sizing to keep in ratio with what is in the cartoon.

pOpGJJ7.jpg

 

TdBETXC.jpg

 

So far I have some of the fabric painted with the translucent white mixture along with trying to print a repeat pattern on the fabric with the oil based transparent paint. I'm having a bit of an issue with getting the pattern exactly aligned up. Which is where I am at the moment. My question so far is how close does the pattern have to match? I have pictures included for folks to look at. I might be able to stabilize some of the printed pattern and wash out part of the other sections and try again when the fabric is dry. But if I don't have to do it, I'd rather not as it is already a massive undertaking.

showing the best copy of the neoprene fabric that I have (on the right). The fabric on the left is a stretch cotton wool blend that didn't work out in my testing. But I have found that between the paint and the clear coat it lightens up and has an overall feel/look of the fabric on the left.
5VnVygt.jpg

You can see the brush strokes of lighter colored paint on the fabric.
ZZYRRfc.jpg

 

printed clear coat on top of fabric so far.
sPYRcay.jpg

How it interacts with light and shadow. Highlights on left are from inside light and outside light on the right.
0McCrRh.jpg

in slight motion (blurred like in many screen shots from her movement)
AUYcEHg.jpg

same angle but not in motion and shows how it blends into the fabric when in neutral lighting.
V80RV6P.jpg

Couple of reference shots

ARLvEMQ.jpg

UnoXq3w.jpg

sEoSQiJ.jpg

I'll leave it here for now and hope to get feed back sooner than later. :)

 

Edited by barryhicks
duplicate photo
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey everyone. I re-printed the teal blue tunic fabric. I also found fabric for making the pants/leggings. I'm including pantone swatches for those of you who have the Pantone Formula Solid Coated. I will be trying to get the other tan/cream fabric painted over the next week or so and then start making markup patterns for the tunic and leggings. 

Apparently the other color for the pantone was not in the picture... it's 303-C
NDgDpUD.jpg


7700-C is the closest to the darker color of the striated fabric for the lighter part of the two colored pants/leggings.
iIEaoUm.jpg

4451-C is the color for the lightest part of the striated fabric for the leggings...
72nNawQ.jpg

Somewhere between 7707-C and 7708-C for the base color of the blue/teal fabric
fYwtRHe.jpg

Fabric under an overcast day and fabric under my awning and fabric in the dark room with a light on from the outside...
h4dAhEi.jpg

oeW6sy4.jpg

hHA2NIU.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...