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..and I did the other version as well Did all the makeup myself If you guys want to see more photos and way more of how I made this entire costume PLEASE dont hesitate to see my board on the Rebel Legion (posted above) ..I was wondering if I did an alright job on the makeup.. til someone asked me if that was my husband in the costume. Guess I did alright! XD

WOw I forgot about this board.. omg dont hate me... I just applied to the Rebel Legion with the finished costume!! I hate that i cant post huge photos here! Heres A BUNCH of photos

Haha no no sir I do not. Just a good argument for a number of the Sith Apprentices now in the DS category is all ^.- So I just learned a LOT about Sith Lords, Darths and what not. I keep coming to the same conclusion. A sith apprentice is also a Lord and a sith Lord is also a darth? Am I missing something? ? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sith http://www.killermovies.com/forums/arch ... darth.html http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_apprentice

I know what you mean about us arguing over the costumes we own. (I am doing it ) =) But really its because we are the "experts" ( I guess you could say) in them. The reason why we choose these costumes is (usually) for the back-story and the way we feel about these particular characters. Also yeah, it personally affects us. While all of us are honing in on what or who we could potentially get back I think those of us arguing over the fate of these characters agree that we would like to see them all returned. ^.- Some are much more arguable than others. Such as why I think you have say..more of some particular characters arguing than others over the detachment designation. I feel as though with a few of these characters we have a fairly strong argument for why he in particular person should not have been removed from the designation. I am being honest here, I just dont know enough about a number of the characters being asked or argued about Also I wouldn't feel comfortable arguing for them because of that. Where as say myself for example on Starkiller I can tell you just about anything about him, and with say another character I just don't know enough about the intricate backstory Thank you so much Thomas, we love your hard work! Dawn

Here is a Starkiller costume that I own thats approved (its from FU2 ending) I am still confused as to why Darth Maul is a SL. He is an apprentice no? To quote http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Maul I feel like i could change that Entire sentience i just pulled that from (the wiki) to Starkiller as the story is identical I just edited the above ^ See a lot of similarities eh?

Why are SWTOR Acolytes listed as Sith Lords?

Again thank you so much sir for the hard work, time and dedication you have put fourth to this effort. I hope that they can reach a decision on this subject matter.

NICE! Cant wait to see more!

I want to see you make that! Thats an awesome costume!! To literally parrot what Mr. Thomas said its ... "reference first and always, the CRL is secondary" If there is No CRL standards and there is a full good front and back and it is for sure a character (canon: not a non-canon variant) in the Starwars Universe than there is no reason that is shouldn't be good for submission to either the 501st or the Rebel Legion. I get this question a lot from many many many Rebels. They "want" a CRL. I tell them to write one! ^.^ There are hundreds if not thousands of costumes in the Starwars Universe that have yet to be made. Personally for me I have a great time finding and thus making "Legion 1sts" basically "costumes that do not have a CRL and have Never been made" (I personally find it a thrilling challenge) I have made them for both the Rebel Legion and the 501st now So take it from me, even if it hasn't been done, that shouldn't stop you! But before hand definitely find out if the costume is eligible for submission! (in very rare occasions a costume is not) ^.- Also 100% agree, ignore the CRL. In some cases you'll actually do a better job than the CRL states and you MIGHT find a mistake or two and can aide in changing said mistake! ^.- I myself found mistakes between two of the costumes I made. If you want to see how I went about doing a Legion 1st (or a costume with no CRL). Heres my newest Legion 1st WIP. I ALWAYS recommend a WIP (no matter what, but a WIP is extra important for a little/never/rarely made costume) http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53509 I hope this helps you (or anyone who reads it) Just take a lot of time to research and youll be alright! ^.^

Done sir! Thank you so much! Let us know what you find out further!

I am only concerned (not angry btw) for the same reasons Mr. Thomas has brought up. While really its small beans cash wise I have a license place, license plate holder, trading cards and now my legion ID all with SL-13377 Also as a SL what was/is really nice is I was granted full access to the Sith Lord forums. Will that stop now that I am DS? I doubt they will go back and delete me but I wonder who this will affect after me. I do like it. Its just a touch shocking to see that on the front page. So.... who's making the detachment forums for the whopping 100 members haha Thank you so much for all the information you've given us thus far sir! ^.^

Yeah I scoured the forums as well! What the hey?! Why is Starkiller under DS (He is an Apprentice Sith) Why is Darth Maul under SL?! (He is an Apprentice Sith) Why are Sith Acolytes SL (They are Apprentice Siths) Why is Visas Marr under DS?! (She is an apprentice Sith) I am totally confused as to what happened O.o!

EDIT: This conversation is for the discussion of the renaming (re-designation) for a number of EU Character costumes for the 501st. ORIGINAL MESSAGE: I must have missed something that went on here some time ago. Can someone explain why there is a group now called "DS Dark Side"? http://www.501st.com/members/costumeros ... agoryID=27 and Why are Apprentice Sith lords listed in the DS section? Visa versa why are there Apprentice sith lords listed on the Sith Lord section as well? When did this happen? I am asking here because it appears to be Apprentice EU sith Lords listed on the DS section and movie apprentices listed on the SL section O.o Thanks!

I would make that costume in a heart beat if we could prove that one to be valid for submission... its so lovely. I wish i had more photos

From what few pictures you have it looks really good! I wish that I could see larger images, I may be missing something but it looks fantastic over all! My own Starkiller Sith Robes were just approved a few months ago. You are on the right track! If you would like a crit/nit pick that I am not even entirely sure is valid. 1. DO you happen to have a photo of the back of the costume (no robe)? 2. Can you show us a top to bottom view (whole body) from the front? Why I ask is because in your top left image it appears as though your red lined black skirt is really close together. If you look at the reference the skirt is not closed at the top , giving room for the Grey underskirt

Thankyou soo much! Please do NOT hesitate to ask if you need any info on this costume. While I do not persay use patterns I can help with construction on any of it!! I wish you well on your build and may the force be with you!

Yep! I am missing those lines! As with all things with each costume I learn as I go along. I need a professional way to add those lines. Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this? ANY advice appreciated. ^.- I have paint the exact identical color of the leather (which is actually a shiny bronze) So whatever I add to it I can paint over it to look identical Thanks! Being as though I made the straps I can make em again! (and/or beat the holy living dog sniff out of em, which is fine as well) I feel like (hope) if i move em around enough ill get the identical look...dear gosh who knows though! I have been wrong before! ^.- Thats just part of making a costume like this though... if you dont have to remake it 6x your not doing it right! I am just thankful to have you guys! =)

Thank you! I think it looks horrid! Ahhh Artists eye. Dear gosh this Revan is a lot of work! Tons of fun though! Didn't get any progress in this weekend was trooping all weekend x.x Back at it this evening!

Finially got to troop in it! Was waiting for a Con! ^.- My buddy Cory helped me out by being the ever amazing Vader Thank you so much everyone for helping me!! *hugs*

WIP PHOTOS THUS FAR SKIRT Starting Pleats Leather and O Rings Test Run of Correct Width Large O Rings and Jewel Mask Dollar Store Helmet Frame Crude Shapes Pieces Cut out Starting to Glue Crude Details Test while wearing Jewel Shoulder Bells Pattern for Bells Crude Shape Assembled Assembled Base Obi Original Shape Base Assembling Crude base detailing Whole Costume

COLOR REFERENCE SHOTS This section is for: -Color drops from Original -My cloth choices -swatches and paints The above is color grabs from the ORIGINAL (DOUBLE HOODED VERSION) shown on the left. Bioware DID NOT CHANGE ANY COLORS ON HIM. They just TOOK OUT THE BUG. The Far LEFT version should be TRUE TO LIFE because its rendered using NO IN-GAME LIGHTING. The other reference on the right shows him IN GAME

THIS SECTION IS RESERVED FOR MY TODO LIST When checked off it means I "think" I am done Percentages what I feel they are done Skirt : DONE Shirt : DONE Sleeves: DONE Gauntlets:DONE Gloves: DONE Silver Belt: DONE Jewel: DONE Obi: DONE Leather DONE O Rings: DONE Assembled Belt with O rings: DONE Balaclava: DONE Mask/Helmet: DONE Pants: DONE Chest Armor: DONE Hood: DONE Shoulder Bells: DONE Tabards: DONE Leather O Rings on Chest: DONE Belt for Chest: DONE Assembled Belt on chest: DONE Bags: DONE Boots: DONE

Bioware has addressed that this costume is Canon and will have NO MORE Changes. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthre ... 91&page=85 Game: SWTOR REFERENCE: Video (The Foundry): DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 501st(KOTOR Version) and SWTOR: Click on the Direct image and it will resize to original size when you press the Magnify button. Its LARGE Direct Image: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/ ... abb48d.jpg NOTES: Required Items: Redeemed Revan 1. Black Hood which arches to a slight point in the back, the hood is full and falls around the collar evenly. 2. A burgundy and black mandalorian mask that is worn and weathered away 3. Black undershirt with long sleeves 4. A Balaclava covering the costumers face and neck 5. Black long gloves with striped details running along the gauntlets which turn a shade of burgundy (matching the mask) at the joint 6. Black Arm wrappings consisting of thin 1 inch strips, wrapped unevenly up the arms and stop inches below the shoulder 7. half moon shaped shoulder armor with ornate details 8. Black chest piece made of thick material. A rust colored strip runs down the center and is adorned with 2 straps on the right and left side, detailed with 4 “O” Rings. The back has a smaller rust colored strip and is adorned with two horizontal detail lines 9. The skirt has a long burgundy material strip running horizontal, it runs the entire length of the front, appears to be connected. The skirt is then pleated flowing outwards around the costumer . The two pleats are as wide as the burgundy skirt. The back has a burgundy and black strip running horizontal down the length 10. The Obi is made of a course material. It wraps around the costumer and connects in the back, it has ornate details in bronze, rust and hints of tarnished silver. 11. The belt is silver in color and has 7 horizontal lines, in the center is a large burgundy crystal, hanging from the belt is connectors which attach to a large O ring and cascades into a number of smaller O rings, the lower belt wraps around the body and connects with a single long strip hanging from the back 12. Simple black boots 13. Purple Lightsaber 14. Two square bags hanging from the right and left of the jewel on the belt

Hello All!! I thought some folks here might enjoy my thread, I am building SWTOR Style Revan, (Basically a Revan that "should" be approved Via the Rebel Legion.) IF YOU WANT TO SEE LARGER IMAGES GO HERE: http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48040 You fine folks are "the Revans" So I hope someone will be very apt to spot something if its off! ^.^ I also have a thread up in the Jedi section of the Rebel Legion. Love those folks over there! Without further Ado, here comes my FLOOD OF POSTS! Start Date: November 01 2013 Estimated Finish Date: December 20 2013

I understand that THIS version of Revan is very very Rebel. But you are the EU guys..and you are the Revan guys, so with that said I would love some input on my Revan Redeemed costume I am currently in the process of working on. ***This costume has not been attempted or approved via the Rebel Legion*** I will make updates as I progress, and changes as you guys see fit. Thank you for any and all help! Dawn Bright SL13377 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/ ... 299bad.jpg Redeemed Revan CRL Guide Written By: Dawn U Bright (Amidalas) HAS NO BEARING ON A REAL CRL I WROTE THIS, IT IS FAKE AND TO BE USED AS A GUIDE WHILE MAKING MY COSTUME Needed 1. Tight fitting torso shirt with Grey trim on front wrapping around neck 2.Full Dark charcoal or black Skirt with long Burgundy Banner in front with 5 pleats on either side of Burgundy Banner and two smaller Burgundy banners in back, 4 pleats run down back center. 3. Chest armor with mildly rigid design in chest region, fabric or leather appearance wrapping around body. With designs consistent with original reference. 4. Black or almost black Hood attached to body armor 5. Tabards that do not extend past the belt with leather straps and 4 small metal like circles attached 6. Burgundy base colored Shoulder bells with silver trim consistent with reference 7. Brownish Grey Obi with sweeping ornate design consistent with reference, accents of gold and green are present 8. silver/grey belt with 7 lines running horizontal across entirety, large red and Grey jewel set on center. 9. 4 pouches 2 square and 2 oval on belt 10. Secondary belt hangs from Grey belt holding large center Grey circle, cascading brown leather straps hold 8 more Grey circles, wrapping around body. 11. Black or dark charcoal gloves with red cuffs, detailed in silver or Grey trim 12. Simple Black or Grey Boots Optional Revan Lightsaber Revan Mask with Balacava http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/ ... feaa0e.jpg My Rebel Legion WIP http://www.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48040