Thank you for the tip ill have to experiment with that! I know asking questions is a good thing, but i have to apologize in advance for the barrage that's going to be coming to this thread. Here is an interesting observation i just noticed, didn't even realize it till I was trying to armor on for sizing. Full disclaimer, i did buy this armor second hand since it was a great deal and pretty close to my measurements (granted the armor itself is a little bigger than i am}. However, i found this to look strange (image below). The ribbing on the front and back do not match up, and it seems that the front ribbing is much larger than the back/kidney armor. is this an auto disqualify if im trying to get approved? i looked at the CRL and it just mentioned proportion and a specific no larger than 6 inches for the back. Not really sure what i would do to remedy this aside from just trying to order a new breast/back plate from MWA. Ill shift focus to working on the other pieces for now. looking forward to any info or insight you may have. Cheers!